You make me dance. This is good.
I'm afraid that some cultural things might be lost in translation as they move from Appalachia across the ocean to Norway. Though perhaps given the noise over Panzer AG, maybe you just have an unfortunate aesthetic taste in picking the loosing side of some pivotal conflicts of the last two hundred years (if so, you might want to see if Laibach can give you some advice on Ustaše uniform--remember the more obscure the better!).

Yes, I'm making an issue out of a t-shirt. I'm annoying like that.
What does the confederate flag mean? Is it a symbol for rebellion? Here is a helpful article that might assist in some trans-atlantic understanding:
Anarchism and Confederate-Flag Culture
One Man’s Journey from Southern Heritage to Libertarian Socialism
by Prolecat
If you are someone who displays a Confederate flag out of overt racism, this text is not for you. In fact, we will fight you in the streets.
If, however, you are someone who insists that he is not racist, but you have at some point in your life displayed a Confederate Flag out of a general sense of rebellion against the government, the boss, parents, pompous Yankee liberals, or just against modern society in general, then this text is addressed to you. Especially, if you are a working class southerner who flies the Cross of St. Andrew as an in-your-face act of protest against the mass production of national “culture,” a McDonaldized product that has the effect of smothering and burying authentic local cultures that (some feel) are symbolized by the Confederate flag… especially, then, this brief sketch of one man’s odyssey from the glorification of southern heritage to an appreciation of anarchist ideas and values, may have something to say to you.
As a child I was raised by the school, television, church, and my parents, in roughly that order of importance. All of these authorities told me what it was appropriate for me to think, do and feel at any given moment. I was supposed to love and obey a God who never bothered to show his face to me, and in a similar vein I was supposed to love and obey a familial father who didn’t have time for me, either. Parents and teachers were to be respected, and for children who failed in that endeavor the “policeman would come and get you” (which proved to be all too true.)
But at least I had the television… Mr. TV was my buddy, my fellow sufferer in the face of all this authority. Mr. TV was the coolest kid on the block, the guy who knew his way around the social pit-falls of school, the ultimate arbiter of what was cool and what was, gasp, “lame” (can you imagine a crueler, more horrible expression?)
The problem was, it was all a bunch of lies, and I knew it. (Or at least, once I got old enough to think for myself, I knew it.) The meaning-of-it-all that the church offered meant, in fact, nothing at all. It was illogical, but served the purpose of telling me to be a good servant, because I would get my reward after I was dead from an invisible person in the sky. (I don’t think the unlikelihood of THAT little scenario requires too much commentary.) The school, with its sports programs and detention halls, which claimed to be opening my mind to the mysteries of the universe and the joys of great art, was in fact training to me to become a cog in the great corporate machine. And my parents were too much in the thrall of this corporate religion themselves, to do anything but reinforce it.
Even my best friend, the TV, turned against me. He begin to say that if I was born a white southerner, then I was to blame for all the racial ills of mankind. That’s right, I, little ole southern white boy, had done it all, from the Grecian slave societies of antiquity to the Boston busing riots, from the rape of Nanking to the Holocaust, all the racial ills of mankind could be laid at my doorstep. By this point in time the church (and my parents) had stuffed me so full of irrational guilt that I was inclined to believe it… but somehow, it just didn’t add up.
So I took a big horn from a bottle of (Kentucky) bourbon, hung a Confederate flag in the window, and told the world to kiss my ass. I was through apologizing for being born…
Here is the summary version: the American corporate titans that control the TV, newspapers, and grammar school textbooks have declared all things southern to be racist, and all things racist to be southern, in order to confuse the issue and evade their own responsibilities. They portray slavery as having been a purely southern institution, instead of as a single component of a universally oppressive white/Anglo economic system (that happened to find its worst excesses in the cotton fields of the southern United States in the 1800’s).
By painting slavery and racism as a uniquely southern phenomenon, the CEO’s manage to divert attention from the racist legacy that remains. When they falsely imply that racism is uniquely southern, and then correctly add that the racial situation in the south now mirrors that of the rest of the country, they declare the problem solved. Implicitly this has the effect of encouraging such reactionary nonsense as charges of “reverse discrimination.”
In fact, nothing could be further from the truth. The problem of white supremacy in America is anything but resolved. In fact, police officers all over America target people of color for searches and beatings, while the nation’s jails, prisons and housing projects are littered with the dark-skinned human refuse of the ultimate soulless commodity system, the great American labor market. In the 1850’s most blacks were subject to whips and chains, but a small portion were relatively “free”. In modern society, most people of color are impoverished or imprisoned, while a similarly small portion are middle-class, or relatively “well-off”. Very little has changed, other than the means of the enslavement.
These facts are what the “racism is a southern thing” myth is intended to obscure. Blacks, Latinos, and to a lesser extent, working-class southern whites are all harmed by this myth. It is time to place the responsibility for American racism and poverty squarely where it belongs, at the doorstep of the business class, and at the foot of the American flag (and all other Anglo-nationalist flags) which provide the business class with aid and comfort.
So, burn your Confederate flag- give it a respectful ceremony if you must, but really, get rid of it- and join the anarchist movement as we set out to combat, defeat and replace the racist, classist, patriarchal society that bores us with political speeches, numbs us with television, scares us with the superstitions of religion, hypnotizes us with the banalities of commercial advertising, and threatens us with the state-religion of patriotism. We are the “rebels” of the modern corporate-techno-nightmare age, and our ultimate goal is to replace the businesses, government and churches with a society of free equals, in which all live at peace with nature and each other.
Join us as we set out to build a new world, a world in which every man, woman and, yes, child is viewed and treated as a valuable part of the great whole of larger humanity, instead of as a competitor for money, sex, and power. Join us as we set out to build a world based on sharing and mutual respect, where local idiosyncrasies (that are supportive of human dignity) are respected, even celebrated. Join us, and be proud of the human being that you are, the community in which you live, and the planet on which you stand.
Down with McDonalds, Wal-Mart, ADM and the rest of the corporations! Up with your neighbors, and yourself!
I'll admit that article is pretty thick on the revolutionary rhetoric. It's got a lot of bombast. If you think about it, though--it's a hell of a lot more controversial to the modern era and status quo than any reactionary appreciation of a dead regime whose values were morally bankrupt at the time--much more so now.
Combichrist could continue down the confederate route. Lots of artists have made a career solely out playing fried chicken with racist insignia. So much so, that the entire act has already been predicted and mocked before it's even happened. That's a sure formula to be trite and boring, the one thing a music act with a shocking schtick never wants to be--is boring. This shit was already played out when Lynyrd Skynyrd did it.
I'm going to be leading a chant of "Free Bird" at the next Combichrist show I'm at.
Still, I have some advice that could spice up the act: you could you mix in some clips of "Birth of a Nation" into your video stage show. In interviews, you could discount any racist ideology while claiming that the film was a breakthrough in cinematography and feature length films. Maybe do some sort of photo-negative thing with the images so the blacks are white and the whites are black. Also, maybe come out on stage in a big white sheet and then pull it off to reveal your replica confederate army attire. You'd be like a ghost--ghosts are like gothic. Maybe start a trend where you've got stage dancers who appear in "black face". For fashion accessories, folks could start wearing nooses as neckties. "Rekonstruction" would be a great name for an album/side project (it sounds really industrial/powernoise/aggrotech). If anyone asks if it has anything to do with the post-civil war period in the U.S.--just make a vague reference to being inspired by the old record label of similar name; that's very rivet.
I'm probably biased though, being from West Virginia... the state that seceded from Virginia during the civil war. Folks flying the confederate flag around my neck of the woods were up to no good. West Virginia, where John Brown had his famed failed raid on Harper's Ferry.
Why doesn't anyone ever want to play dress up as John Brown? There was one crazy, gun-totting firebrand who made Kansas bloody, fighting for freedom. In the words of escaped slave and Baltimorean Fredrick Douglas, "Did John Brown fail? John Brown began the war that ended American slavery and made this a free Republic. His zeal in the cause of freedom was infinitely superior to mine. Mine was as the taper light; his was as the burning sun. I could live for the slave; John Brown could die for him."
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June 6 2007, 17:41:36 UTC 4 years ago
Just makes it worse, he should know better--or I suppose he'll learn soon enough.
June 6 2007, 17:52:27 UTC 4 years ago
heh funny old world
when i was little the stars and bars were cool because of the general lee.. little did i know what they represented.. is my idea of the stars and bars supposed to change now that i "know better"?June 6 2007, 17:57:18 UTC 4 years ago
Re: heh funny old world
Mine did.4 years ago
June 6 2007, 18:42:56 UTC 4 years ago
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June 6 2007, 19:07:11 UTC 4 years ago
And here is where I loose my political correctness
Andy is Norwegian, not German. So it might be like this: "Ve-a ere-a cumbeechrist! Ve-a teke-a futus in durty ruums veet cheeensevs und jepunese-a schuul gurls in hund cooffffs und ve-a veer cunffederete-a fleg becoose-a ve-a hete-a yuoo".He really wants to sound like this though: "We is combichrist! Fry mah hide! We take fotos in dirty rooms wif chainsars an' japanese skoo gals in han' cuffs an' we wears confederate flag on account o' we hate yo'"
Real "electroheads" type like this: "WE ARRE C0MbICHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 we takef otos in dirty 0rOms with chainsaws and ap4neaes school babes in ahnd cuffs and we wear confed3rate flag gecuz W eahte you"
Thanks, Dialectizer!
June 6 2007, 20:08:18 UTC 4 years ago
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You can find him myspace.
June 6 2007, 21:13:21 UTC 4 years ago
June 6 2007, 20:28:31 UTC 4 years ago
But from what little of Combichrist I've listen to actively, you get the feeling that LaPlegua wants to be taken seriously when he's screaming about "feminist cunts". Unless he's so edgy that he even rejects the expectation that such invectives should be accompanied with some measure ironic wit, 'cuz he sure as shit ain't funny.
Anyway, I'm of the opinion that industrial is the only music that actually gets better when the artist gets over their angst.
June 6 2007, 20:45:49 UTC 4 years ago
Two halloweens ago I was such a nerd, I went as a drow elf in blackface. One person recognized what it was.
I think the fascist aesthetic in industrial music is way overstated. "Militaristic" is probably a reference, but still the aesthetic is broader than that. The political content of most of the acts in the genre that have any political content tends to be left of center to radical... with a few fascist outliers.
June 8 2007, 01:04:07 UTC 4 years ago
And that's why guys like Andy LaPlegua and Klayton Scott worry me. It looks like in ten years "industrial" is going to be reduced to heavy metal with a drum machine.
A lot of folks read fascist symbolism in KMFDM after Columbine even though they were always explicitly anti-capitalist. As a couple other commenters pointed out, it's mostly the German association. And Americans not knowing and not caring about the differences between Nazis and Commies, not to mention a general clumsiness with irony.
~It's like raaaaaaaaaain on your wedding day~
*facepalm*
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June 7 2007, 16:09:11 UTC 4 years ago
Rebel Yell!
Billy Idol gets it now.PUNK ICON IDOL UPSETS JEWISH TV HOST WITH SWASTIKA COMMENTS
June 7 2007, 02:07:28 UTC 4 years ago
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5kK0-o0-BcI
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this'll end the debate!
see, combichrist and bill cosby worked together!