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Excerpts from DOD database

This makes me feel that targetting military recruitment was the right strategy for anti-war activism. It seems to be one of the reasons the Pentagon spies on citizens.

Is the Pentagon spying on Americans?
Secret database obtained by NBC News tracks ‘suspicious’ domestic groups
(MSNBC)

Defense Facilities Pass Along Reports of Suspicious Activity
'Raw Information' From Military, Civilians Is Given to Pentagon
(Washington Post)

Partnership for Civil Justice and NLG File FOIA Request - Seeking Records on Pentagon Lists of Peace Activists and War Opponents
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:December 21st, 2005 05:36 am (UTC)
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I don't really see a problem with this. Their job is to prevent acts of terrorism, which are just as likely to come from American nationals as foreigners, and there is no indication from these documents they have taken any sort of action to disrupt legitimate, peaceful groups or protests.
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From:flintultrasparc
Date:December 21st, 2005 06:00 am (UTC)
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The Department of Defense is spying domestically on citizens? This isn't the FBI, it's not the CIA, it's the Army/Navy/Airforce/Marines/Coast Guard. Generaly, the U.S. military has been legally prohibited from being used for law enforcement functions domestically. Obviously during large scale disasters, riots, and rebellions... governors will call in the national guard.

I do not think that the "job" of the U.S. military was ever designed to prevent acts of terrorism. The "job" of the U.S. military has always been to fight wars.

I'm not as shocked and outraged about this as a lot of people are. It doesn't suprise me at all. I have a pretty cynical view on the government and the military.

The point to me, rather... is of all the things the U.S. military could be engaged in surveillance of U.S. citizens, they seem to largely be focused on those who protest their recruitment. To me, this helps validate countering military recruitment as a potentially effective strategy against the war in Iraq.

By comparison, the DOD doesn't seem to be tracking the peace candle vigil outside of the Baltimore Friends center, or the one that happens regularly near the Washington Monument in Mount Vernon, Baltimore.
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From:hero_x_victim
Date:December 21st, 2005 07:50 am (UTC)
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i couldn't agree more Flint, i think recruitment should be a high priority for revolutionaries in this time period.

holy shit, we agree?
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From:flintultrasparc
Date:December 21st, 2005 08:01 am (UTC)
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We agree on things all the time, dork.
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From:machinery
Date:December 21st, 2005 09:05 pm (UTC)
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How convenient that we share this viewpoint and live in the same city! *cough*meeting!*cough*
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From:usedtobecool_
Date:December 21st, 2005 06:06 pm (UTC)
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Read some of your comments (NYC transport) and liked them. Have added you for further reading...
From:djgyn
Date:December 21st, 2005 06:09 pm (UTC)
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Yay! I'm making people become friends!
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From:flintultrasparc
Date:December 22nd, 2005 07:13 pm (UTC)
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Yes, but I think my opinions might cause me to not get invited to the cool parties in NYC. ;)
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From:flintultrasparc
Date:December 23rd, 2005 04:15 pm (UTC)
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Bring Da Noise!

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From:machinery
Date:December 21st, 2005 09:04 pm (UTC)
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NCOR schedule?
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From:shiftchange
Date:December 22nd, 2005 03:57 am (UTC)
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ug, i can't bear another year.
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From:flintultrasparc
Date:December 22nd, 2005 07:12 pm (UTC)
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HAHAHAHA!

I was just at the Mid-Atlantic Radical Bookfair meeting. I had to use my awesome sense of order to get folks to agree to nine 110 minute and eighteen 50 minute time slots for the smaller rooms. Soon, we too will have a spreadsheet! Muhahhahaha!
From:archaic_noise
Date:December 26th, 2005 12:02 am (UTC)
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The one thing that is always a comfort to me.... none of these govt. morons have any clue what the other is up too (department wise). And that is straight from a horses mouth or would that be ass??? (Flint, you know of whom I am implying!)
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From:flintultrasparc
Date:December 26th, 2005 04:31 pm (UTC)
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I'll have to tell you something funny in person one day.
From:archaic_noise
Date:December 27th, 2005 06:28 am (UTC)
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That "in person" thing is quite troublesome, no? ;)
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